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Is There Really an IT Labor Shortage?
By Ericka Chickowski
2008-03-05
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Is There Really an IT Labor Shortage? - We’re Hurting Ourselves (
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We’re
hurting ourselves
No matter
what the motives for promoting belief in an IT skills shortage, those who
contradict that belief say that the perpetuation of such a myth will sting the
industry in the end.
“What
should NOT be done is to take actions that will increase the supply of
scientists and engineers that are not intimately coupled with serious measures
to ensure that comparable increases occur in the demand for scientists and
engineers,” Teitelbaum told Congress.
Already
job volatility is increasingly discouraging the best and the brightest from
entering IT in favor of other more lucrative fields such as investment banking
and medicine, Hira said.
“The
risks in terms of job volatility is there, plus then you overlay things like
outsourcing of jobs and the breakdown of employment relations between employer
and worker and also if you believe that technological changes are happening
faster then the risk obsolescence by the worker is even higher,” Hira said. “If
you're out of work for six months or a year are you going to be obsolete or at
least perceived to be obsolete by an employer and I think those risks have
increased quite dramatically and if you think about risk and reward from an
investment point of view, we don't see a concurrent increase in the reward side
in the wages to justify those risks.”
Hira
believes that the illusion of a shortage has already done harm by helping the
industry sneak past politicians for increases in H1-B guest foreign worker
visas in an immigration system that Hira believes is broken.
“We have
a system with certain criteria set out—the H1-B has requirements—the problem is
they're so loosely written that in fact those workers can be substitutes for American
workers and in effect American workers can be forced to train the workers who
are on H1-B to replace them,” Hira said. “So that certainly runs counter to
both common sense in terms of what the programs are supposed to do; but also
what the publicly stated goals are both by politicians as well as by the
lobbies.”
In
addition to this flood of temporary foreign workers on
U.S. soil, there is also the offshore
outsourcing effect to contend with, which has been largely justified as a way
to work around the shortage.
“You've
seen cases around where they've gone offshore, folks on shore either started to
leave or been laid off people are highly demoralized and now they're finding
things aren't working quite as well as they've hoped,” Salzman said. “The
perception out there is that the future is uncertain.”
In both
cases these efforts have flooded the market with lower-cost foreign workers who
are supplanting an already ample field of home-grown IT labor. The result is
that the myth of an IT skills shortage could just end up be self-perpetuating.
“The trouble is that it creates a disincentive for Americans
to study these technical fields,” Wadhwa said. “We're hurting ourselves; computer
science enrollment is dropping because the incentive is not there for students
to study computer science.”
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